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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.insiders-view.co.uk/bestdealinsurance-and-bestdealinsurancecouk-banned-penalised-from-google/00102/comment-page-1#comment-19023</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the bestdealinsurance penalty has been lifted.

Looks like bestdealinsurance are back for house and home insurance and in the 30s for car insurance. It also looks like a lot of their backlinks have had their PR reduced making their rankings look more reasonable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the bestdealinsurance penalty has been lifted.</p>
<p>Looks like bestdealinsurance are back for house and home insurance and in the 30s for car insurance. It also looks like a lot of their backlinks have had their PR reduced making their rankings look more reasonable.</p>
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		<title>By: Bored with BestDealInsurance Spam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bored with BestDealInsurance Spam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 10:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NOT every one pays for links - however tempting when G &#039;rewards&#039; the spammers.
The point is (a) there are rules, so (b)they should be applied because if (a)&amp;(b) are not true it sends out the wrong signals from G and positively promotes spam - if you see it working for others that must mean G implicitly approves (or at least ignores) the actions, so to stay in the game people think they have to do the same and that&#039;s sad.

The alternative is to let the law of the jungle apply - full on open season - at least that&#039;s an even field - now that would be a a fun ride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOT every one pays for links &#8211; however tempting when G &#8216;rewards&#8217; the spammers.<br />
The point is (a) there are rules, so (b)they should be applied because if (a)&amp;(b) are not true it sends out the wrong signals from G and positively promotes spam &#8211; if you see it working for others that must mean G implicitly approves (or at least ignores) the actions, so to stay in the game people think they have to do the same and that&#8217;s sad.</p>
<p>The alternative is to let the law of the jungle apply &#8211; full on open season &#8211; at least that&#8217;s an even field &#8211; now that would be a a fun ride.</p>
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		<title>By: SEO'er</title>
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		<dc:creator>SEO'er</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Build useful content &#039;innit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Build useful content &#8216;innit</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m reading here how not to do it.

So, how do you do it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reading here how not to do it.</p>
<p>So, how do you do it?</p>
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		<title>By: Ernest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Stan B, as I mentioned before ...no I don&#039;t buy links, I&#039;ve never given an indication about how successful I&#039;ve been or not, whether I&#039;m trying to compete for competitive insurance search phrases or not. In fact, come to think of it, I&#039;ve never even suggested I work on an SEO campaign at all!! We&#039;ve purposely not given our employer&#039;s name(s) so that all comments and opinions on here can be impartial. Unfortunately, that would be the only way of showing my hand - and we&#039;re not going to do that.

I&#039;m interested though Stan B - I assume by your comments that you do buy links. Do you have a strategy in place for a day when the rug is pulled from underneath you or do you think it&#039;ll be such a gradual process (if at all) that you&#039;ll just adapt your strategy to suit along with everyone else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Stan B, as I mentioned before &#8230;no I don&#8217;t buy links, I&#8217;ve never given an indication about how successful I&#8217;ve been or not, whether I&#8217;m trying to compete for competitive insurance search phrases or not. In fact, come to think of it, I&#8217;ve never even suggested I work on an SEO campaign at all!! We&#8217;ve purposely not given our employer&#8217;s name(s) so that all comments and opinions on here can be impartial. Unfortunately, that would be the only way of showing my hand &#8211; and we&#8217;re not going to do that.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested though Stan B &#8211; I assume by your comments that you do buy links. Do you have a strategy in place for a day when the rug is pulled from underneath you or do you think it&#8217;ll be such a gradual process (if at all) that you&#8217;ll just adapt your strategy to suit along with everyone else?</p>
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		<title>By: Stan B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christ Ernest....I cant believe that you have NEVER bought a link. Do you operate in the car insurance market? If so do you really expect to rank by being the Mother Theresa of SEO&#039;s? Or are you simply not bothered about ranking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christ Ernest&#8230;.I cant believe that you have NEVER bought a link. Do you operate in the car insurance market? If so do you really expect to rank by being the Mother Theresa of SEO&#8217;s? Or are you simply not bothered about ranking?</p>
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		<title>By: Ernest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;However how can they tell if the links pointed at them from all those blogs were not malicious?&quot;

Because they had publicly accessible pages up describing what they wanted written and how much they would pay! It wasn&#039;t even subtle and it exploit the emphasis Google puts on blog posts over other web pages [at a guess].

&quot;They were in nowheresville for the term. then they went No 1.&quot;

Would your position change slightly if you had something to protect? i.e. if you were in halfwaythereville naturally [discounting upthereville because you&#039;d argue - possibly fairly - that&#039;s not achievable]

And, still after that direct response! What would you do to get yourself back in the game following a penalty such as GC, BDI and the like?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;However how can they tell if the links pointed at them from all those blogs were not malicious?&#8221;</p>
<p>Because they had publicly accessible pages up describing what they wanted written and how much they would pay! It wasn&#8217;t even subtle and it exploit the emphasis Google puts on blog posts over other web pages [at a guess].</p>
<p>&#8220;They were in nowheresville for the term. then they went No 1.&#8221;</p>
<p>Would your position change slightly if you had something to protect? i.e. if you were in halfwaythereville naturally [discounting upthereville because you'd argue - possibly fairly - that's not achievable]</p>
<p>And, still after that direct response! What would you do to get yourself back in the game following a penalty such as GC, BDI and the like?</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....and to reply to your question regarding Go Compare.

WHo cares what G thinks of them! As if they care. They still take their PPC money from them!

They were in nowheresville for the term. then they went No 1.

They made some money, then they got their bottom smacked.

Within 2-3 months, they&#039;ll be back for their brand Im sure.


In the meantime they have lost nothing. They can still be found through PPC for brand. So no sweat.

Who cares what Google thinks?!

Now if Google stopped your PPC then THAT would be a penalty.....

However how can they tell if the links pointed at them from all those blogs were not malicious?

So....Go Compare...I applaud you.

You made great money for two months, while everyone else looked on and tutted. You learnt from it.

Google cares not.

Your customers can find you.

However Latitude...you were naughty. You can&#039;t pretend to be a large SEO firm yet play on the dark side. Love your silence btw!

Greenlight...now there&#039;s a firm....!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.and to reply to your question regarding Go Compare.</p>
<p>WHo cares what G thinks of them! As if they care. They still take their PPC money from them!</p>
<p>They were in nowheresville for the term. then they went No 1.</p>
<p>They made some money, then they got their bottom smacked.</p>
<p>Within 2-3 months, they&#8217;ll be back for their brand Im sure.</p>
<p>In the meantime they have lost nothing. They can still be found through PPC for brand. So no sweat.</p>
<p>Who cares what Google thinks?!</p>
<p>Now if Google stopped your PPC then THAT would be a penalty&#8230;..</p>
<p>However how can they tell if the links pointed at them from all those blogs were not malicious?</p>
<p>So&#8230;.Go Compare&#8230;I applaud you.</p>
<p>You made great money for two months, while everyone else looked on and tutted. You learnt from it.</p>
<p>Google cares not.</p>
<p>Your customers can find you.</p>
<p>However Latitude&#8230;you were naughty. You can&#8217;t pretend to be a large SEO firm yet play on the dark side. Love your silence btw!</p>
<p>Greenlight&#8230;now there&#8217;s a firm&#8230;.!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay Ernie, feel like I&#039;m conversing with the SEO equivalent of Mother Teresa!

Okay lets get something straight from the outset:  Google are not the internet Police. They are a Search Engine. A good one, to be fair; but still a search engine.

They make guidelines for people to rank well. 

Some people do and some people don&#039;t abide.

The fact remains that Google does not decide whoese site is the best, which offering is the strongest, who gives best customer value.....WE DO.

And as far as white hat or balck hat is concerned its baloney...all of it.

Its either effective hat or not effective hat.

Which one are you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay Ernie, feel like I&#8217;m conversing with the SEO equivalent of Mother Teresa!</p>
<p>Okay lets get something straight from the outset:  Google are not the internet Police. They are a Search Engine. A good one, to be fair; but still a search engine.</p>
<p>They make guidelines for people to rank well. </p>
<p>Some people do and some people don&#8217;t abide.</p>
<p>The fact remains that Google does not decide whoese site is the best, which offering is the strongest, who gives best customer value&#8230;..WE DO.</p>
<p>And as far as white hat or balck hat is concerned its baloney&#8230;all of it.</p>
<p>Its either effective hat or not effective hat.</p>
<p>Which one are you?</p>
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		<title>By: Ernest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rex, oh Rex! The point is that we have two different opinions. There&#039;s no middle ground that you can get me to meet you on and I&#039;m not jumping over to the black hat side. As I&#039;ve mentioned, I don&#039;t buy links. I&#039;m aware others do. I&#039;m aware of the results they get. I&#039;m aware of the money they make. I choose not to buy links. I know you&#039;re on the other side.

This blog is full of people who do buy links and moan about other people&#039;s success, those who buy links and have success themselves, those who don&#039;t buy links who generally moan about how unjust the situation currently is. As I mentioned before (many times), buying links requires a budget and that&#039;s something which not everyone has access to. Therefore, the results cannot be completely unbias.

Before you counter that point, I know the economic pressures and returns on buying links so no need to repeat the circular arguement there.

The reputation I was referring to is not as a brand for customers or the industry but in the eyes of Google. Answering my point directly, do you think GoCompare can rebuild their reputation and return to something like their previous standings? If so, how do you think they will go about this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rex, oh Rex! The point is that we have two different opinions. There&#8217;s no middle ground that you can get me to meet you on and I&#8217;m not jumping over to the black hat side. As I&#8217;ve mentioned, I don&#8217;t buy links. I&#8217;m aware others do. I&#8217;m aware of the results they get. I&#8217;m aware of the money they make. I choose not to buy links. I know you&#8217;re on the other side.</p>
<p>This blog is full of people who do buy links and moan about other people&#8217;s success, those who buy links and have success themselves, those who don&#8217;t buy links who generally moan about how unjust the situation currently is. As I mentioned before (many times), buying links requires a budget and that&#8217;s something which not everyone has access to. Therefore, the results cannot be completely unbias.</p>
<p>Before you counter that point, I know the economic pressures and returns on buying links so no need to repeat the circular arguement there.</p>
<p>The reputation I was referring to is not as a brand for customers or the industry but in the eyes of Google. Answering my point directly, do you think GoCompare can rebuild their reputation and return to something like their previous standings? If so, how do you think they will go about this?</p>
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