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		<title>By: Paul Routledge</title>
		<link>http://www.insiders-view.co.uk/martin-lewis-money-saving-expert-charity/001021/comment-page-1#comment-68172</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Routledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Below is an email I sent to Martin Lewis website today.

Martin allowed a thread about our company to run for weeks while he tried to see the company brought to its knees, when its supporters replied to the comments made about the company and tried to offer explanations to a confused public, the site threw everyone that supported us off, barred our IP and then stripped the thread of our defence and then continued to let his lynch mob lie deceive and slander without recourse as thousands watched.

This website is a loose cannon and needs closing down now!!! 

Sir,

You were sent an email by my company yesterday telling you that you had until this morning to remove the thread about us which was one sided slanderous and which had admissions of criminal activity.

You have failed to remove the thread and now having read the whole thread again with all of LRS originally initiated posts having been deleted it makes little sense and the attacks on us are still defamatory, unfounded and damaging and have no place on your site, there are still several quotations from our posts included in others posters&#039; posts and these -   taken out of context - show a wholly distorted view of what LRS has said on this thread.
 
You have until 12pm today to remove this thread in its entirety or the whole copy file of the original 16 pages will be forwarded to our solicitors and the police to start civil and criminal proceeding against your company and its member posters that you are protecting.


Paul Routledge
Landlord Referencing Services

The site has now changed some of the last really derogatory comments but still will not remove the thread so now we will need to carry out our threats and sue them and report them to the police.

We have gone onto face book and searched martin Lewis and there are a couple of groups on their which a proving that this is not the first time his shoddy web site has done this to people.

The link to the forum is

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=2630339&amp;page=13</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Below is an email I sent to Martin Lewis website today.</p>
<p>Martin allowed a thread about our company to run for weeks while he tried to see the company brought to its knees, when its supporters replied to the comments made about the company and tried to offer explanations to a confused public, the site threw everyone that supported us off, barred our IP and then stripped the thread of our defence and then continued to let his lynch mob lie deceive and slander without recourse as thousands watched.</p>
<p>This website is a loose cannon and needs closing down now!!! </p>
<p>Sir,</p>
<p>You were sent an email by my company yesterday telling you that you had until this morning to remove the thread about us which was one sided slanderous and which had admissions of criminal activity.</p>
<p>You have failed to remove the thread and now having read the whole thread again with all of LRS originally initiated posts having been deleted it makes little sense and the attacks on us are still defamatory, unfounded and damaging and have no place on your site, there are still several quotations from our posts included in others posters&#8217; posts and these &#8211;   taken out of context &#8211; show a wholly distorted view of what LRS has said on this thread.</p>
<p>You have until 12pm today to remove this thread in its entirety or the whole copy file of the original 16 pages will be forwarded to our solicitors and the police to start civil and criminal proceeding against your company and its member posters that you are protecting.</p>
<p>Paul Routledge<br />
Landlord Referencing Services</p>
<p>The site has now changed some of the last really derogatory comments but still will not remove the thread so now we will need to carry out our threats and sue them and report them to the police.</p>
<p>We have gone onto face book and searched martin Lewis and there are a couple of groups on their which a proving that this is not the first time his shoddy web site has done this to people.</p>
<p>The link to the forum is</p>
<p><a href="http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=2630339&#038;page=13" rel="nofollow">http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=2630339&#038;page=13</a></p>
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		<title>By: matthew</title>
		<link>http://www.insiders-view.co.uk/martin-lewis-money-saving-expert-charity/001021/comment-page-1#comment-65188</link>
		<dc:creator>matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2010 00:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the bottom line is:

Â£114k in for charitable purposes
Â£10k interest earned
Â£38k ear-marked as a tax-free transfer from Lewis jr to Lewis sr (only Â£31k paid out)
Only Â£53k spent on charitable objects

Clearly Lewis has ear-marked the funds to try and deflect criticism over the fact that a charity pays Â£30k to its administrator that spends barely more than that (Â£53k) on charitable projects, but it still doesn&#039;t look good.

They&#039;ve got Â£300k in the bank! When and how do they plan to spend it? What are they waiting for? Why don&#039;t they promote the fact that you can get on a &#039;â€˜You and your money: personal finance in context&#039; OU course paid for by them in their weekly email? Just what is the administrator doing in return for his full-tine salary?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the bottom line is:</p>
<p>Â£114k in for charitable purposes<br />
Â£10k interest earned<br />
Â£38k ear-marked as a tax-free transfer from Lewis jr to Lewis sr (only Â£31k paid out)<br />
Only Â£53k spent on charitable objects</p>
<p>Clearly Lewis has ear-marked the funds to try and deflect criticism over the fact that a charity pays Â£30k to its administrator that spends barely more than that (Â£53k) on charitable projects, but it still doesn&#8217;t look good.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ve got Â£300k in the bank! When and how do they plan to spend it? What are they waiting for? Why don&#8217;t they promote the fact that you can get on a &#8216;â€˜You and your money: personal finance in context&#8217; OU course paid for by them in their weekly email? Just what is the administrator doing in return for his full-tine salary?</p>
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		<title>By: matthew</title>
		<link>http://www.insiders-view.co.uk/martin-lewis-money-saving-expert-charity/001021/comment-page-1#comment-65181</link>
		<dc:creator>matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 23:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure why those charity accounts would be deleted. Not necessarily done by Lewis - the thing is that he has a lot of low-paid staff who might not necessarily behave entirely professionally. 

A while back there was a thread about a dodgy ebay trader, lots of people reporting that they were selling counterfeits, links to other forums with reports of the same.

One day this thread disappeared, presumably following a complaint from the fraudster. Not unusual, but attempts to question this, scrupulously detailing the fraud were ruthlessly suppressed - forum posts were deleted, users were banned, emails to martin himself were ignored (quite possibly deleted by his minions, since the &#039;email Martin&#039; address is actually filtered by his staff). Basically he doesn&#039;t give a shit about consumer protection, only about brand Martin Lewis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure why those charity accounts would be deleted. Not necessarily done by Lewis &#8211; the thing is that he has a lot of low-paid staff who might not necessarily behave entirely professionally. </p>
<p>A while back there was a thread about a dodgy ebay trader, lots of people reporting that they were selling counterfeits, links to other forums with reports of the same.</p>
<p>One day this thread disappeared, presumably following a complaint from the fraudster. Not unusual, but attempts to question this, scrupulously detailing the fraud were ruthlessly suppressed &#8211; forum posts were deleted, users were banned, emails to martin himself were ignored (quite possibly deleted by his minions, since the &#8216;email Martin&#8217; address is actually filtered by his staff). Basically he doesn&#8217;t give a shit about consumer protection, only about brand Martin Lewis.</p>
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		<title>By: bsmithhh</title>
		<link>http://www.insiders-view.co.uk/martin-lewis-money-saving-expert-charity/001021/comment-page-1#comment-64427</link>
		<dc:creator>bsmithhh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 06:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I clicked the Ads by Google  above  which says &#039; money saving&#039; and the top two advertisements it took me to were to  ....... moneysavingexpert. 

Why the site advertises I do not know.  Martin critcises advertising. 

And why the site pushes members&#039; posts onto open platforms like Twitter and Facebook I do not know.  If you type moneysavingexpert into Twitter search the same few anonymous accounts are posting bunches of posts from MSE to Twitter every day. Who is LB4006 or 1bill4all? 

http://twitter.com/#search?q=moneysavingexpert

It just risks more abuse on the forum, especially on threads about benefits.  

And why the site does deals with other sites like Bargain Spy to republish all the work authored by forum members who post things to share with other forum members, and  NOT THE INTERNET, I do not know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I clicked the Ads by Google  above  which says &#8216; money saving&#8217; and the top two advertisements it took me to were to  &#8230;&#8230;. moneysavingexpert. </p>
<p>Why the site advertises I do not know.  Martin critcises advertising. </p>
<p>And why the site pushes members&#8217; posts onto open platforms like Twitter and Facebook I do not know.  If you type moneysavingexpert into Twitter search the same few anonymous accounts are posting bunches of posts from MSE to Twitter every day. Who is LB4006 or 1bill4all? </p>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/#search?q=moneysavingexpert" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/#search?q=moneysavingexpert</a></p>
<p>It just risks more abuse on the forum, especially on threads about benefits.  </p>
<p>And why the site does deals with other sites like Bargain Spy to republish all the work authored by forum members who post things to share with other forum members, and  NOT THE INTERNET, I do not know.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice in Wonderland</title>
		<link>http://www.insiders-view.co.uk/martin-lewis-money-saving-expert-charity/001021/comment-page-1#comment-64369</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice in Wonderland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 23:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Quasar

You&#039;d know who to contact and enquire about that. It isn&#039;t some Alice in Wonderland on another blog, instead on the MSE site itself through contacting the abuse team.

HTH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Quasar</p>
<p>You&#8217;d know who to contact and enquire about that. It isn&#8217;t some Alice in Wonderland on another blog, instead on the MSE site itself through contacting the abuse team.</p>
<p>HTH.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice in Wonderland</title>
		<link>http://www.insiders-view.co.uk/martin-lewis-money-saving-expert-charity/001021/comment-page-1#comment-64367</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice in Wonderland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 23:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rupert you really believe all those tens and thousands of registered users agree with Martin? It is serial abusers and use of offensive language who get banned and  most of the time following several other posters&#039; reports. Also it is Martin&#039;s own site - he has an agenda which is to keep disruptions to a minimal level and focus on what the site is meant for - which is to save money and help one another should they wish to. Disagreement for the sake of argument is never a good idea and I somehow don&#039;t think Martin has the time or inclination for it.

I intend to leave it at this. Not because I cannot back up my opinion  but because this is just about my remit would permit me - that&#039;s all I know of the site. I wandered in just to say for any article that&#039;s written to have journalistic integrity, there should be substance and not hot air.

PS: If you visit MSE, you&#039;d know where to get Lozenges  &amp; Cough sweets at cheap price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rupert you really believe all those tens and thousands of registered users agree with Martin? It is serial abusers and use of offensive language who get banned and  most of the time following several other posters&#8217; reports. Also it is Martin&#8217;s own site &#8211; he has an agenda which is to keep disruptions to a minimal level and focus on what the site is meant for &#8211; which is to save money and help one another should they wish to. Disagreement for the sake of argument is never a good idea and I somehow don&#8217;t think Martin has the time or inclination for it.</p>
<p>I intend to leave it at this. Not because I cannot back up my opinion  but because this is just about my remit would permit me &#8211; that&#8217;s all I know of the site. I wandered in just to say for any article that&#8217;s written to have journalistic integrity, there should be substance and not hot air.</p>
<p>PS: If you visit MSE, you&#8217;d know where to get Lozenges  &amp; Cough sweets at cheap price.</p>
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		<title>By: Quasar</title>
		<link>http://www.insiders-view.co.uk/martin-lewis-money-saving-expert-charity/001021/comment-page-1#comment-64364</link>
		<dc:creator>Quasar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 23:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alice in Wonderland

So tell me why did a user get banned yesterday from mse just because they posted a link to this 

http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/ScannedAccounts/Ends20%5C0001121320_ac_20090331_e_c.pdf


If Martin Lewis was open they why did&#039;nt he post this info?,after all its open for anyone to look at</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alice in Wonderland</p>
<p>So tell me why did a user get banned yesterday from mse just because they posted a link to this </p>
<p><a href="http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/ScannedAccounts/Ends20%5C0001121320_ac_20090331_e_c.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/ScannedAccounts/Ends20%5C0001121320_ac_20090331_e_c.pdf</a></p>
<p>If Martin Lewis was open they why did&#8217;nt he post this info?,after all its open for anyone to look at</p>
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		<title>By: rupert</title>
		<link>http://www.insiders-view.co.uk/martin-lewis-money-saving-expert-charity/001021/comment-page-1#comment-64361</link>
		<dc:creator>rupert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 23:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alice in Wonderland 


Hi Alice(cough)

                                       re:your first post

If anyone would have wrote that post on moneysavingexpert,say in the the feedback forum,but in reverse of what you have written,i.e. critisising martin as opposed to this blog in here,the post would have been removed by now and you would have been banned.Not on this site though as this site allows free speach,unlike MSE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alice in Wonderland </p>
<p>Hi Alice(cough)</p>
<p>                                       re:your first post</p>
<p>If anyone would have wrote that post on moneysavingexpert,say in the the feedback forum,but in reverse of what you have written,i.e. critisising martin as opposed to this blog in here,the post would have been removed by now and you would have been banned.Not on this site though as this site allows free speach,unlike MSE</p>
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		<title>By: Alice in Wonderland</title>
		<link>http://www.insiders-view.co.uk/martin-lewis-money-saving-expert-charity/001021/comment-page-1#comment-64355</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice in Wonderland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 22:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ernest. I&#039;ve read law at the University and understand charitable status and it&#039;s entitlements quite well. Guess what, I&#039;d have had no respect for Martin&#039;s site had he not set up a charity and actually demonstrated a fine balance and sense of business acumen and charitable mindset. That is about being dynamic and true and honest to oneself. And he tells us everything on the site - it is all transparent and for everyone to see, judge and even challenge him which he recieves with respect. I&#039;m also more interested in what the charity has to offer and little interested in it&#039;s intricacies. Your disparging comments and insinuations actually says you&#039;re not actually interested in the charity, instead in evangelising some ill-feelings and envy you harbor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ernest. I&#8217;ve read law at the University and understand charitable status and it&#8217;s entitlements quite well. Guess what, I&#8217;d have had no respect for Martin&#8217;s site had he not set up a charity and actually demonstrated a fine balance and sense of business acumen and charitable mindset. That is about being dynamic and true and honest to oneself. And he tells us everything on the site &#8211; it is all transparent and for everyone to see, judge and even challenge him which he recieves with respect. I&#8217;m also more interested in what the charity has to offer and little interested in it&#8217;s intricacies. Your disparging comments and insinuations actually says you&#8217;re not actually interested in the charity, instead in evangelising some ill-feelings and envy you harbor.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice in Wonderland</title>
		<link>http://www.insiders-view.co.uk/martin-lewis-money-saving-expert-charity/001021/comment-page-1#comment-64352</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice in Wonderland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 22:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jim

Wrong.

I am Alice in Wonderland. 

You must be dull to assume Martin will offer airtime to moronic rants on this site. No one needs to flatter themselves thinking so.

As much as I love to be Martin or associated with him or be a celebrity like him, unfortunately I&#039;m not. I&#039;m a little spec on his site,  who benefits a lot from his articles and weekly emails.

Why don&#039;t you subscribe to them and start saving as well? Enter your email address and start saving Now. http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/site/money-tips-email-faqs And Don&#039;t forget to pass it on to friends, family and colleagues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jim</p>
<p>Wrong.</p>
<p>I am Alice in Wonderland. </p>
<p>You must be dull to assume Martin will offer airtime to moronic rants on this site. No one needs to flatter themselves thinking so.</p>
<p>As much as I love to be Martin or associated with him or be a celebrity like him, unfortunately I&#8217;m not. I&#8217;m a little spec on his site,  who benefits a lot from his articles and weekly emails.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you subscribe to them and start saving as well? Enter your email address and start saving Now. <a href="http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/site/money-tips-email-faqs" rel="nofollow">http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/site/money-tips-email-faqs</a> And Don&#8217;t forget to pass it on to friends, family and colleagues.</p>
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