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		<title>By: Donâ€™t Leave Footprints In The Sand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donâ€™t Leave Footprints In The Sand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] filters and the UK comparison site Money Supermarket valued at around $2 billion is also thought to have been hit. When approaching link development, follow Jim Boykin&#8217;s lead and try to get links within [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] filters and the UK comparison site Money Supermarket valued at around $2 billion is also thought to have been hit. When approaching link development, follow Jim Boykin&#8217;s lead and try to get links within [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paid links - no one likes a rat!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paid links - no one likes a rat!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] next step was to inject fear and paranoia into the equation. After a few high profile smackdowns in competitive online industries where link buying is rife, some SEOs towed the official [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] next step was to inject fear and paranoia into the equation. After a few high profile smackdowns in competitive online industries where link buying is rife, some SEOs towed the official [...]</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.insiders-view.co.uk/gocompare-banned-from-google/0096&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;GoCompare banned&lt;/A&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="http://www.insiders-view.co.uk/gocompare-banned-from-google/0096" rel="nofollow">GoCompare banned</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 17:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whilst doing some investigation it&#039;s become evident that Money Supermarket are technically cloaking quite a few links to their top ranking pages.

They have a large number of links from sites like the www.timesonline.co.uk. These appear to link through to the relevant Times Online branded page on www.moneysupermarket.com, however if the browser or spider does not accept cookies and cannot run JavaScript they are permanently redirected to the Moneysupermarket version of the relevant page complete with the moneysupermarket URL. (which is the one currently ranking in the search results.)

So as an example this URL contains several links to MS.
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/money/insurance/

The link with the text &quot;Life Assurance&quot; links through an intermediate script:
http://www.moneysupermarket.com/link.asp?Section=term&amp;Source=TIM

This script accepts two parameters, the first appears to be the source of the referral in this case &quot;TIM&quot; (times online) the section parameter appears to be used to tell the script where to permantly redirect to on the MS site.

This is the interesting part :) If like the majority of internet users you accept cookies and run JavaScript you&#039;ll be 301 redirected to this URL:
URL 1: http://www.moneysupermarket.com/Termassurancep/Default.asp

If however your a search engine spider or user without cookies and JavaScript you&#039;ll be permantly redirected to this URL:
URL 2: http://www.moneysupermarket.com/termassurance/

This of course means the cache of URL 1 actually shows the content of URL 2:

http://209.85.135.104/search?sourceid=navclient-ff&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=cache:http%3A%2F%2Fwww.moneysupermarket.com%2FTermassurancep%2FDefault.asp

Forgive me if i&#039;m wrong here but that&#039;s cloaking for search engine benefit, and it&#039;s not cloaking in order to keyword stuff the page it&#039;s cloaking to gain links.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whilst doing some investigation it&#8217;s become evident that Money Supermarket are technically cloaking quite a few links to their top ranking pages.</p>
<p>They have a large number of links from sites like the <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk</a>. These appear to link through to the relevant Times Online branded page on <a href="http://www.moneysupermarket.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.moneysupermarket.com</a>, however if the browser or spider does not accept cookies and cannot run JavaScript they are permanently redirected to the Moneysupermarket version of the relevant page complete with the moneysupermarket URL. (which is the one currently ranking in the search results.)</p>
<p>So as an example this URL contains several links to MS.<br />
<a href="http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/money/insurance/" rel="nofollow">http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/money/insurance/</a></p>
<p>The link with the text &#8220;Life Assurance&#8221; links through an intermediate script:<br />
<a href="http://www.moneysupermarket.com/link.asp?Section=term&#038;Source=TIM" rel="nofollow">http://www.moneysupermarket.com/link.asp?Section=term&#038;Source=TIM</a></p>
<p>This script accepts two parameters, the first appears to be the source of the referral in this case &#8220;TIM&#8221; (times online) the section parameter appears to be used to tell the script where to permantly redirect to on the MS site.</p>
<p>This is the interesting part <img src='http://www.insiders-view.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  If like the majority of internet users you accept cookies and run JavaScript you&#8217;ll be 301 redirected to this URL:<br />
URL 1: <a href="http://www.moneysupermarket.com/Termassurancep/Default.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.moneysupermarket.com/Termassurancep/Default.asp</a></p>
<p>If however your a search engine spider or user without cookies and JavaScript you&#8217;ll be permantly redirected to this URL:<br />
URL 2: <a href="http://www.moneysupermarket.com/termassurance/" rel="nofollow">http://www.moneysupermarket.com/termassurance/</a></p>
<p>This of course means the cache of URL 1 actually shows the content of URL 2:</p>
<p><a href="http://209.85.135.104/search?sourceid=navclient-ff&#038;ie=UTF-8&#038;q=cache:http%3A%2F%2Fwww.moneysupermarket.com%2FTermassurancep%2FDefault.asp" rel="nofollow">http://209.85.135.104/search?sourceid=navclient-ff&#038;ie=UTF-8&#038;q=cache:http%3A%2F%2Fwww.moneysupermarket.com%2FTermassurancep%2FDefault.asp</a></p>
<p>Forgive me if i&#8217;m wrong here but that&#8217;s cloaking for search engine benefit, and it&#8217;s not cloaking in order to keyword stuff the page it&#8217;s cloaking to gain links.</p>
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		<title>By: Ernest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Money Expert&#039;s link buying exploits have earned them a strong listing on [car insurance] to go alongside their top positions on [loans] and [mortgages].

I wonder whether Google will bother to clamp down on them? It&#039;ll prove whether the Confused and MoneySupermarket issues were a warning or a sign of treatment which all link buyers should expect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Money Expert&#8217;s link buying exploits have earned them a strong listing on [car insurance] to go alongside their top positions on [loans] and [mortgages].</p>
<p>I wonder whether Google will bother to clamp down on them? It&#8217;ll prove whether the Confused and MoneySupermarket issues were a warning or a sign of treatment which all link buyers should expect.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 10:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason I doubt if they&#039;d notice, is more to the fact that in terms of their quote numbers, the majority come from natural searches for the Confused.com brand and not through random searches.

The marketing team at Confused, while being extremely effective, have rarely needed to be heavily hands on with Google.  I&#039;d guess that this contrasts hugely with say moneysupermarket and definetly Gocompare.com.

This in part is due to the length of time that they have had high rankings on Google but mainly down to their reliance on their SEO company.

A lot of companies rely heavily, maybe too heavily, on their SEO companies to get high Google rankings and don&#039;t understand what is really involved in attaining those positions.  I appreciate that naievity (sp?) is no excuse, but maybe Google&#039;s first port of call to cleaning up the rankings should be to consult with the SEO agencies as to what will happen if optimisation methods aren&#039;t corrected (this may already have been done).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason I doubt if they&#8217;d notice, is more to the fact that in terms of their quote numbers, the majority come from natural searches for the Confused.com brand and not through random searches.</p>
<p>The marketing team at Confused, while being extremely effective, have rarely needed to be heavily hands on with Google.  I&#8217;d guess that this contrasts hugely with say moneysupermarket and definetly Gocompare.com.</p>
<p>This in part is due to the length of time that they have had high rankings on Google but mainly down to their reliance on their SEO company.</p>
<p>A lot of companies rely heavily, maybe too heavily, on their SEO companies to get high Google rankings and don&#8217;t understand what is really involved in attaining those positions.  I appreciate that naievity (sp?) is no excuse, but maybe Google&#8217;s first port of call to cleaning up the rankings should be to consult with the SEO agencies as to what will happen if optimisation methods aren&#8217;t corrected (this may already have been done).</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 10:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ernest

Having previously been part of Confused.com from it&#039;s lauch to very recently, I&#039;d frankly be amazed if they&#039;d noticed that they&#039;d been dropped from Google until the following day and even more amazed if they&#039;d ever read I-V.

Also, confused.co.uk was acquired last year for nowhere nearly as much as people might think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ernest</p>
<p>Having previously been part of Confused.com from it&#8217;s lauch to very recently, I&#8217;d frankly be amazed if they&#8217;d noticed that they&#8217;d been dropped from Google until the following day and even more amazed if they&#8217;d ever read I-V.</p>
<p>Also, confused.co.uk was acquired last year for nowhere nearly as much as people might think.</p>
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		<title>By: Ernest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 09:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be good if someone from confused came on here to comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be good if someone from confused came on here to comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 08:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to chip in again on confused - noticed that they have acquired confused.co.uk (wonder what they had to pay for that?), anyway it&#039;s a replica of confused.com - so might be some sort of duplicate content issue, either way I think they&#039;ll get it sorted...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to chip in again on confused &#8211; noticed that they have acquired confused.co.uk (wonder what they had to pay for that?), anyway it&#8217;s a replica of confused.com &#8211; so might be some sort of duplicate content issue, either way I think they&#8217;ll get it sorted&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Knatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 17:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One wonders how much of an impact a few days of de-listing and a slap on the wrist will have on a giant such as MSM. I can&#039;t understand why the FSA didn&#039;t whip their arses long ago; most of the top insurance quotes returned don&#039;t match user specification amd people are not being insured properly as a result. This worries me far more than black-hat SEO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One wonders how much of an impact a few days of de-listing and a slap on the wrist will have on a giant such as MSM. I can&#8217;t understand why the FSA didn&#8217;t whip their arses long ago; most of the top insurance quotes returned don&#8217;t match user specification amd people are not being insured properly as a result. This worries me far more than black-hat SEO!</p>
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