Swinton spam, Its-not-4me

by Ernest on March 30, 2007

George and I spend a fair amount of our time going through the online insurance quote forms and call centres. It gives us an understanding of the IT systems and techniques being used by everyone in the market. It’s not an exciting part of anyone’s job and it is certainly not one you talk to your mates about at the pub. But you need to keep tabs on your competition.

When trawling around like this, we obviously don’t leave our real contact details each time – for fear of being spammed. There’s one poor street of unsuspecting homeowners who must be getting mounds of insurance spam landing on their doorstep! However, every now and again, we need to leave some real data to see how and when people outbound and spam you. This is generally not a problem until it comes to the spam merchants of Swinton!

Completely out of the blue, they’ve managed to call and email me more than five times in a single day. That’s not so much customer relationship management but more like stalking. Maybe even harassment. How can they expect to generate trust and develop the long term engagement of customers interacting with their brand if they’re badgering people from the outset.

Regardless of their lack of principles, one would imagine that by using the Swinton unsubscribe feature, you would be safe from all future spam and bombardments. Apparently not! A few weeks following the initial onslaught, the same thing happened again – having actively unsubscribed and asked for all details to be removed from their spam system.

CRM managers out there, take note. Don’t fall short of this most basic of principles. If you’re selling door-to-door, what do you do if someone slams the door in your face? Do you ring the bell again and start your patter all over again, clipboard at the ready with the same beaming smile on your face? No, you move on to the next house and hope that the same thing doesn’t happen again. Simply don’t communicate with people once they’ve already asked you not to. It’s that simple.

Unfortunately, Swinton are not the only one’s doing this. Quote Line Direct also appear to randomly get in touch with you to see if you’ve changed your mind and are ready to listen to their drivel. It doesn’t matter how many times you say no, they still come back for more. Incidentally, special mention should go out to Endsleigh here. Despite picking up the phone and hearing the words, “Can I speak to Mickey Mouse please?” (someone must have quick auto-diallers in their call centre) they do appear to correctly adhere to the basic meaning of an unsubscribe function.

So you see Swinton, your spam…its-not-4me. Has anyone else had problems with people spamming them? Do you think the insurance industry is any better or worse than other sectors in the UK? Is there any incentive whatsoever for companies to adhere to the data privacy guidelines?

{ 8 comments… read them below or add one }

George March 30, 2007 at 10:12 am

Good post Ernest! It’s spam like this that breeds hate and distrust. It’s also easily avoidable.

(I do enjoy an outbounded call saying “Hello Mr. Mouse, I’m calling about your quote”)

Kevin March 30, 2007 at 11:07 am

From an aggregator point of view, we try to police as best we can the outbounding that our insurnace partners conduct.

We also, conduct ‘Test’ quotes and this week we had somoeone calling and asking to speak to Mr Test Test!

George March 30, 2007 at 11:50 am

Kevin,
Do you think this is a malicious act by insurers or do you think they don’t know what they are doing?

Creased March 30, 2007 at 12:26 pm

I’ve worked in a call centre and the dialling system we used gave you the persons details the split second they picked up, so if the person was Mickey Mouse, Michael Jackson or Joe Bloggs, then that is what you found yourself automatically saying instantly – then feeling like an idiot.

This is a tough one, but in my option is if I just want a quick quote, I just fake a phone number and email address just in case!

Kevin March 30, 2007 at 2:35 pm

George,

I would tend to agree with ‘Creased’, in so much that it is invariably the systems which drive the outbounding and in some cases they just aren’t sophisticated enough to stop re contacting customers or identifying obviously fictitious names!

Ernest April 2, 2007 at 3:51 am

Kevin, to some extent you’re right about the systems and I don’t mind that do much. However, receiving email spam and phone calls from companies who I have requested not to contact me [and believe me, I very carefully requested for them to stop], is simply not acceptable.

If they take the responsibility of collecting personal data, they should have the responsibility not to abuse it…IMO.

Kevin April 2, 2007 at 10:25 am

Ernest, I totally agree.

Ernest May 16, 2007 at 11:14 am

They’re at it again – by phone, email and smoke signals!! Swinton, please stop spamming the hell out of everyone.

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